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#12057: "Problem in ELO calculation"
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I noticed that the ELO calculation was mistaken for this game. I was the lowest ranking player, won, yet earned less points than the third player. (Precision, all players with K factor 20). The third player actually got the sum of all points listed while other players get it divided by around 3.
-> Need to check this, there must be a bug in the calculation.• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
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Kaerdwin • Attīstītāji vēl nav izlabojuši kļūmi:
2019 10. mar. 10:37 • See final scores and ELO variations for table #49548852
mick007 • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2019 14. sep. 13:29 • same constatation in the game : table=57373502
1st win less ELO points than the 3rd, and they have quite the same ELO (100 vs 102)
1st win less ELO points than the 3rd, and they have quite the same ELO (100 vs 102)
jimmyjames008 • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2020 19. mar. 13:04 • I also cannot figure out how they are determining the final ELO a person will gain or loose. They show you did against each opponent, then give you a random value.
It's not the sum of the ELO gained or lost against each player, or a multiple of that either.
It's not the sum of the ELO gained or lost against each player, or a multiple of that either.
liverhof • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2020 9. apr. 6:41 • Hallo,
I didn’t receive correct points for my Victory.
It s not the first time!
I didn’t receive correct points for my Victory.
It s not the first time!
labouh • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2020 18. apr. 14:37 • see also game 7 Wonders #49548852
2nd player earned more than first with same K factor and ELO...
2nd player earned more than first with same K factor and ELO...
John Crabsto • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2020 21. apr. 21:36 • Please check also game #77578216. No correct points at all, I think for any of the players. Thanks!
astridrenate • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2020 10. mai. 22:05 • Here is a screenshot:
i.imgur.com/FtwsBkO.png
shows incorrect ELO sum for player astridrenate,
the other players got the correct sum.
i.imgur.com/FtwsBkO.png
shows incorrect ELO sum for player astridrenate,
the other players got the correct sum.
Alvaro28 • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2020 29. mai. 17:27 • La somme des points ELO est fausse sur de nombreuses tables. Entre le bon total et le total (faux) pris en compte par BGA, il existe un rapport qui varie, suivant les tables: voir liste ci-dessous.
Pire, pour la table 90262900, le ratio 2/3 existe, mais pas pour tous les joueurs !!!
voir les tables suivantes; entre parenthèse le ratio:
87777139 (1/2)
87782304 (1/2)
88910020 (2/3)
89745652 (2/3)
89745675 (2/5)
89745680 (2/3)
89745822 (2/3)
89747707 (2/3)
Merci de votre retour
Pire, pour la table 90262900, le ratio 2/3 existe, mais pas pour tous les joueurs !!!
voir les tables suivantes; entre parenthèse le ratio:
87777139 (1/2)
87782304 (1/2)
88910020 (2/3)
89745652 (2/3)
89745675 (2/5)
89745680 (2/3)
89745822 (2/3)
89747707 (2/3)
Merci de votre retour
Levosh • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2020 12. jūn. 12:47 • Same issue as above. Incorrect ELO calculation. I was first with the lowest Rank and got +24 ELO, the player placed second got +29 ELO for some reason. Same K factor 20 for both of us. Check table=94893135
Gerbat • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2020 14. jūl. 5:34 • Jeu: 7 wonders. Table : 101271517
J´ai gagné le match. L´écran a figuré ma victoire et + 11 points ELO. J´avais 418 points. Le système m´a réduit a 391 points !!!!
Cur, quia quomodo ??????
J´ai gagné le match. L´écran a figuré ma victoire et + 11 points ELO. J´avais 418 points. Le système m´a réduit a 391 points !!!!
Cur, quia quomodo ??????
Julenisse • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2020 23. nov. 20:28 • Same problem also in table 126374987 and other games I played before. Elo scores of the wins vs each single player don't add up to the total Elo change :(
Romain672 • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2020 7. dec. 7:08 • I just checked Gerbat's game.
Apparently, one game before he lost 28 elo because he abandonned a game.
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For Levosh's one, yeah that's really strange.
Apparently, one game before he lost 28 elo because he abandonned a game.
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For Levosh's one, yeah that's really strange.
Julenisse • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2020 19. dec. 21:58 • To be honest, the ELO points vs individual players don't sum up to what you get in total in ANY Seven Wonders game that I play. Please check this!
oezi • Šo ieteikumu izstrādātāji vēl nav analizējuši:
2022 4. feb. 18:51 •
2022 27. dec. 21:15 •
2023 30. aug. 21:48 •
2024 18. feb. 10:38 •
2024 28. aug. 16:42 • I can confirm that in the original table which was reported (boardgamearena.com/table?table=49548852) that for the third player the multi-player offset wasn't correctly applied.
Playing a 7 player game of "7 Wonders" should lead to a correction factor of 1/3 of the sum of the pairwise ELO calculation.
The expected ELO change should have been:
p1 23.55
p2 11.89
p3 8.29
p4 -0.79
p5 -3.42
p6 -19.74
p7 -19.77
Playing a 7 player game of "7 Wonders" should lead to a correction factor of 1/3 of the sum of the pairwise ELO calculation.
The expected ELO change should have been:
p1 23.55
p2 11.89
p3 8.29
p4 -0.79
p5 -3.42
p6 -19.74
p7 -19.77
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