#157232: "Use 9 One-Off effect against point cards"
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Detalizēts apraksts
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• Lūdzu nokopē/ielīmē kļūdas ziņu, ko redzi ekrānā, ja tāda ir.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Lūdzu paskaidro, ko Tu vēlējies darīt, ko Tu izdarīji un kas notika
Could not use 9 ability.
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Safari v18.3
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• Lūdzu iekopē tekstu, kas redzams angļu, nevis tavā valodā. Ja Tev ir ekrānuzņēmums, kurā redzama kļūme (laba prakse), vari izmantot Imgur.com , lai to augšupielādētu un kopētu/ielīmētu saiti šeit.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Vai šis teksts ir pieejams tulkošanas sistēmā? Ja jā, vai tas ir ticis tulkots pēdējo 24 stundu laikā?
Could not use 9 ability.
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Safari v18.3
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• Lūdzu, paskaidrojiet savu ieteikumu precīzi un kodolīgi, lai tas būtu pēc iespējas vieglāk saprotams.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Safari v18.3
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• Kas tika attēlots ekrānā, kad Tu tiki bloķēts (tukšs ekrāns? Daļa no spēles interfeisa? Ziņa par kļūdu?)?
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Safari v18.3
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• Kura noteikumu daļa netika ņemta vērā BGA versijā?
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Vai noteikumu pārkāpums ir redzams spēles atkārtojumā? Ja jā, tad kurā gājienā?
Could not use 9 ability.
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Safari v18.3
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• Kādu spēles darbību Tu vēlējies veikt?
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Ko tu dari, lai panāktu šo spēles darbību?
Could not use 9 ability.
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• Kas notika, kad veicāt šo darbību (kļūdas paziņojums, spēles informācijas paziņojums,...)?
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Safari v18.3
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• Kurā spēles solī problēma parādījās (kas bija tā brīža spēles instrukcija)?
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Kas notika, kad mēģinājāt veikt spēles darbību (kļūdas paziņojums, spēles informācijas paziņojums,...)?
Could not use 9 ability.
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Safari v18.3
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• Lūdzu aprakstiet radušos problēmu. Ja Tev ir ekrānuzņēmums, kurā redzama kļūme (laba prakse), vari izmantot Imgur.com , lai to augšupielādētu un kopētu/ielīmētu saiti šeit.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Safari v18.3
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• Lūdzu iekopē tekstu, kas redzams angļu, nevis tavā valodā. Ja Tev ir ekrānuzņēmums, kurā redzama kļūme (laba prakse), vari izmantot Imgur.com , lai to augšupielādētu un kopētu/ielīmētu saiti šeit.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Vai šis teksts ir pieejams tulkošanas sistēmā? Ja jā, vai tas ir ticis tulkots pēdējo 24 stundu laikā?
Could not use 9 ability.
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Safari v18.3
-
• Lūdzu, paskaidrojiet savu ieteikumu precīzi un kodolīgi, lai tas būtu pēc iespējas vieglāk saprotams.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Safari v18.3
Ziņojuma vēsture
www.pagat.com/combat/cuttle.html
The 9 should only be able to target active Permanent Effects on the table (even with the Deck Nines alternative rule). The game appears to be acting correctly in this case.
Since the balanced rules are inspired by the cuttle.cards variant, I'm okay making this change, but I would like to make sure it would be good for the game.
Most of the changes cuttle.cards made from the base rules are clarified in a discussion on Discord or a Reddit thread, but I cannot find any reference to this difference.
I basically want to make sure it wasn't an accident that just continued to be propagated.
As noted in the "variations" section of the pagat page, this effect, as written is almost **entirely** useles, as the opponent can simply play the returned card on their next turn, at which poitn we are in the exact same situation with the sole change of the person who played the nine no longer having the nine in their hand
This means that in the exact wording on pagat, the only time where playing a 9 for its effect would matter at all is a time where it immediately wins you the game (because you targeted a jack), and the only time that this would be any more beneficial than simply playing the 9 for points is when the player with the 9 has exactly 11 points and their opponent has previously jacked a 10
That's an interesting scenario but it clearly doesn't succeed at delivering an effect that captures the feeling of "sending things back" while being paractiaclly useful
cuttle.cards actually predates the update to the "Variations" section where the suggestion for forcing opponents to wait an additional turn was added to the pagat page (only under variations)
When I was first learning the game with my sister back around 2013, it was quickly clear that the 9's effect as written wasn't useful. We aimed to make a minimal change to make the effect usable, while preserving its feel. That's why we landed on the same idea you now see in the pagat page: requiring the opponent to wait an additional turn to play the returned card
The specific question here is whether or not the 9 One-Off should be used only on Permanent Effects, or if it should be useable against point cards as well.
It should be immediately active in all games, just refresh the page if necessary.
"9 did not let me use ability"
changed to
"Use 9 One-Off effect against point cards"
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- Ja Tev ir ekrānuzņēmums, kurā redzama kļūme (laba prakse), vari izmantot Imgur.com , lai to augšupielādētu un kopētu/ielīmētu saiti šeit.
