#125897: "Extra turn time for initial selections"
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• Lūdzu nokopē/ielīmē kļūdas ziņu, ko redzi ekrānā, ja tāda ir.
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• Lūdzu paskaidro, ko Tu vēlējies darīt, ko Tu izdarīji un kas notika
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Google Chrome v125
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• Lūdzu iekopē tekstu, kas redzams angļu, nevis tavā valodā. Ja Tev ir ekrānuzņēmums, kurā redzama kļūme (laba prakse), vari izmantot Imgur.com , lai to augšupielādētu un kopētu/ielīmētu saiti šeit.
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• Vai šis teksts ir pieejams tulkošanas sistēmā? Ja jā, vai tas ir ticis tulkots pēdējo 24 stundu laikā?
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Google Chrome v125
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• Lūdzu, paskaidrojiet savu ieteikumu precīzi un kodolīgi, lai tas būtu pēc iespējas vieglāk saprotams.
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Google Chrome v125
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• Kas tika attēlots ekrānā, kad Tu tiki bloķēts (tukšs ekrāns? Daļa no spēles interfeisa? Ziņa par kļūdu?)?
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Google Chrome v125
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• Kura noteikumu daļa netika ņemta vērā BGA versijā?
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• Vai noteikumu pārkāpums ir redzams spēles atkārtojumā? Ja jā, tad kurā gājienā?
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Google Chrome v125
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• Kādu spēles darbību Tu vēlējies veikt?
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• Ko tu dari, lai panāktu šo spēles darbību?
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• Kas notika, kad veicāt šo darbību (kļūdas paziņojums, spēles informācijas paziņojums,...)?
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Google Chrome v125
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• Kurā spēles solī problēma parādījās (kas bija tā brīža spēles instrukcija)?
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• Kas notika, kad mēģinājāt veikt spēles darbību (kļūdas paziņojums, spēles informācijas paziņojums,...)?
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Google Chrome v125
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• Lūdzu aprakstiet radušos problēmu. Ja Tev ir ekrānuzņēmums, kurā redzama kļūme (laba prakse), vari izmantot Imgur.com , lai to augšupielādētu un kopētu/ielīmētu saiti šeit.
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Google Chrome v125
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• Lūdzu iekopē tekstu, kas redzams angļu, nevis tavā valodā. Ja Tev ir ekrānuzņēmums, kurā redzama kļūme (laba prakse), vari izmantot Imgur.com , lai to augšupielādētu un kopētu/ielīmētu saiti šeit.
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• Vai šis teksts ir pieejams tulkošanas sistēmā? Ja jā, vai tas ir ticis tulkots pēdējo 24 stundu laikā?
• Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Google Chrome v125
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• Lūdzu, paskaidrojiet savu ieteikumu precīzi un kodolīgi, lai tas būtu pēc iespējas vieglāk saprotams.
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • Kāda ir Tava pārlūkprogramma?
Google Chrome v125
Ziņojuma vēsture
This is a simple fix that should have been implemented within a second of suggesting it.
See what I did there?
Thanks!
I am adding more time after to compesate for it, but it will only kick in after selection.
3 min should be enought to choose your cards. If not you should play friendly/turn based game.
The turn timer for real-time Terraforming Mars is very short. Even on the slowest setting, it is only 2 minutes and 42 seconds.
Race for The Galaxy has a 5-minute option on the slowest setting, and that's a game that typically only takes 10 minutes TOTAL for a player to make all moves.
There was a spirited discussion a few months ago about a game analysis in which the OP of the thread had not taken the optimal line with the starting hand. High-level players plan out an opening strategy based on the optimal synergy from among their 2 starting corporations, 4 preludes, and 10 project cards. This takes time. And the advice from top players would be for all players to do this. The given time, even on the slowest setting, does not really provide sufficient thinking time to do this.
I very much like the idea of a button a player can click that says, "please give me extra time", as you suggested. At the start of the game, a player would have one such "time bank", and it would add, let's say, 2 minutes. Or whatever amount is deemed appropriate. And maybe every 25 minutes, one more "time bank'" can be added. Sometimes the doorbell rings, or nature calls, or whatever.
It would still feel rushed for choosing the corporation cards, since you have to go through all cards before making a strategy, however it will overall make it a bit better.
I play on the fastest setting, because normally for each turn there is plenty of time to play. It is only the selection phase that doesn't fit the normal game flow.
But, based on the fact that I've been (by multiple people) told it's not possible to add extra time to a specific move, such as the opening move, I don't see how a time bank would be possible either.
Oh, I just realized that I already talked about this in my recent post on May 27th in this very thread.
Okay, so, someone create a new, separate suggestion for "Split up the initial choosing of cards into separate turns for corporations, preludes, and project cards."
a few possible problems:
1) Suggestions can be upvoted but not downvoted. 20 upvotes means nothing if there are 40 people who would downvote if they could. Could someone create a poll in the regular discussion forum where people can vote yes or no?
2) This would add some nuisance back and forth at the start of turn-based games with 3+ players. My understanding is that turn-based players already get irritated when such things occur, hence the ongoing debate about taking single cations in TFM.
3) How would this work exactly? We see all 16 cards, but we need to lock in our corporation choice and then pass the action to the next player? And then, our corporation is locked in without any possibility of undo if we decide we'd rather go in the other direction? When I play preludes, I often change my mind numerous times during the initial card selection process (with regard to my corporation, preludes, and project cards.) The eventual selection is a synergistic choice, not, "Okay, I want Ecoline. CONFIRM. Okay, now let me see which preludes go well with Ecoline. CONFIRM. Okay, now let me see which project cards go well with these preludes. That's not how people typically make their initial selections.
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